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作者: real    時間: 29-1-2007 02:13 PM     標題: Can Armada stay 10f? Comparison with Jim and Tonic

I had a big win on Armada yesterday. I bet most of you also had a big win, too; although $2.1 or 10/9 was a skinny odds and won't buy you a house at The Peak!

After reading singtao, singpao etc and I learnt that he will contest 10f race at HK and a 1766m race at Dubai ( Duty Free), I took a look at his bloodline:-- see below. I think he can handle 2000m. Well, I mean he will stay better than Jim and Tonic on paper.

ARMADA   (NZ) ch. G, 2001 DP = 1-0-2-1-0 (4) DI = 1.00   CD = 0.25 - 10 Starts, 8 Wins, 1 Places, 0 Shows Career Earnings: Over US$1,500,000
       
          Winnings: 10 Starts: 8 - 1 - 0, Over US$1,500,000

8 wins in 10 starts in Hong Kong as of January 28, 2007 1st in THE STEWARDS' CUP 2007 2nd in HONG KONG MILE 2006

(CLOSE)
TOWKAY (AUS)
b. 1994        LAST TYCOON (IRE)
br. 1983        TRY MY BEST (USA)
b. 1975        NORTHERN DANCER (CAN)
b. 1961 [BC]        NEARCTIC (CAN)        br. 1954
NATALMA (USA)        b. 1957 *
SEX APPEAL (USA)*
ch. 1970        BUCKPASSER (USA)        b. 1963 [C]
BEST IN SHOW (USA)        ch. 1965 *
MILL PRINCESS (IRE)
b. 1977        MILL REEF (USA)
b. 1968 [CS]        NEVER BEND (USA)        br. 1960 [BI]
MILAN MILL (USA)        b. 1962 *
IRISH LASS (IRE)
b. 1962        SAYAJIRAO (GB)        b. 1944
SCOLLATA (GB)        b. 1952
PRINCESS TRACY (IRE)
b. 1981        AHONOORA (GB)
ch. 1975        LORENZACCIO (IRE)
ch. 1965        KLAIRON (FR)        b. 1952
PHOENISSA (GB)        b. 1951
HELEN NICHOLS (GB)
ch. 1966        MARTIAL (IRE)        ch. 1957
QUAKER GIRL (GB)        gr. 1961
PRINCESS RU (IRE)
b. 1962        PRINCELY GIFT (IRE)
b. 1951        NASRULLAH (GB)        b. 1940 [B]
BLUE GEM (GB)        b. 1943
CHIRU (GB)
b. 1948        BIG GAME (GB)        b. 1939 [I]
TIBET (GB)        b. 1940
DANCE IN TIME (NZ)
b. 1990        RED TEMPO (NZ)
ch. 1979        MUSSORGSKY (IRE)
b. 1974        TUDOR MELODY (GB)
br. 1956        TUDOR MINSTREL (GB)        br. 1944 [B]
MATELDA (GB)        br. 1947
ENTICEMENT (GB)
ch. 1957        INFATUATION (GB)        br. 1951
ZANZARA (GB)        ch. 1951
POCO TEMPO (AUS)
1971        SMALL TIME (AUS)
ch. 1956        SMOKEY EYES (IRE)        ch. 1947
RED GARTER (AUS)        1952
PLUMAGE (NZ)
1964        GOLDEN PLUME (GB)        ch. 1960
EULOGETTE (NZ)        br. 1947
MY BALLERINA (NZ)
gr. 1981        BALMERINO (NZ)
b. 1972        TRICTRAC (FR)
ch. 1962        LE HAAR (FR)        ch. 1954
CARYA (GB)        ch. 1955
DULCIE (NZ)
br. 1953        DUCCIO (ITY)        b. 1944
CASTE (NZ)        br. 1933
MY ELIZABETH (NZ)
gr. 1972        COPSALE (GB)
gr. 1963        KINGS BENCH (GB)        b. 1949
CHRYSOPRASE (GB)        gr. 1957
FAIRYLIKE (NZ)
1952        OMAN (FR)        b. 1944
PYRAMID (NZ)        1948


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JIM AND TONIC   (FR) ch. G, 1994 DP = 4-1-6-2-1 (14) DI = 1.33   CD = 0.36 - 39 Starts, 13 Wins, 13 Places, 4 Shows Career Earnings: ??4,561,647
       
              Owner: J.D.Martin
    Breeder: S.A.R.L. Nupsala
  Winnings: 39 Starts: 13 - 13 - 4, ??4,561,647

1ST Hong-Kong Cup (HK-G1) 1ST Hong-Kong Mile (HK-G1) 1ST Prix Perth (Fr-G3)twice Prix du Chemin de fer du Nord (Fr-G3). La Coupe de Maisons-Laffitte (Fr-G3)twice 2000m,Queen Elisabeth II Cup (HK-Gr.2),Dubai Duty Free (Gr.2), 3rd in Hong Kong Cup. 3 championships in France, one in Dubai

Retired 2003 to Normandy, France

(CLOSE)
DOUBLE BED (FR)
dkb/br. 1983        BE MY GUEST (USA)
ch. 1974        NORTHERN DANCER (CAN)
b. 1961 [BC]        NEARCTIC (CAN)
br. 1954        NEARCO (ITY)        br. 1935 [BC]
LADY ANGELA (IRE)        ch. 1944
NATALMA (USA)*
b. 1957        NATIVE DANCER (USA)        gr. 1950 [IC]
ALMAHMOUD (USA)        ch. 1947 *
WHAT A TREAT (USA)
dkb/br. 1962        TUDOR MINSTREL (GB)
br. 1944 [B]                 OWEN TUDOR (GB)        br. 1938
SANSONNET (GB)        b. 1933 *
RARE TREAT (USA)*
ch. 1952        STYMIE (USA)        ch. 1941
RARE PERFUME (USA)        b. 1947 *
CLAIRE'S SLIPPER (GB)
1974        WELSH SAINT (GB)
b. 1966        ST PADDY (GB)
b. 1957        AUREOLE (GB)        ch. 1950 [C]
EDIE KELLY (GB)        dkb/br. 1950
WELSH WAY (GB)
gr. 1954        ABERNANT (GB)        gr. 1946 [B]
WINNING WAYS (GB)        b. 1945
SEMISLIPPER (GB)
1967        SEMINOLE (USA)
1959        NASRULLAH (GB)        b. 1940 [B]
BANISH (USA)        dkb/br. 1945
SAYASLIPPER (GB)
1960        SAYAJIRAO (GB)        b. 1944
DUSKY SLIPPER (GB)        br. 1948
JIMKA (FR)
1978        JIM FRENCH (USA)
br. 1968        GRAUSTARK (USA)
ch. 1963 [CS]        RIBOT (GB)
b. 1952 [CP]        TENERANI (ITY)        b. 1944
ROMANELLA (ITY)        ch. 1943
FLOWER BOWL (USA)*
b. 1952        ALIBHAI (GB)        ch. 1938 [C]
FLOWER BED (USA)        b. 1946 *
DINNER PARTNER (USA)*
b. 1959        TOM FOOL (USA)
b. 1949 [IC]        MENOW (USA)        b. 1935
GAGA (USA)        b. 1942
BLUEHAZE (USA)*
b. 1945        BLUE LARKSPUR (USA)        b. 1926 [C]
FLAMING SWORDS (USA)        br. 1933
KASTUEUSE (FR)
1970        KASHMIR (IRE)
dkb/br. 1963        TUDOR MELODY (GB)
br. 1956        TUDOR MINSTREL (GB)                  br. 1944 [B]
MATELDA (GB)        br. 1947
QUEEN OF SPEED (GB)
b. 1950        BLUE TRAIN (GB)        ch. 1944
BISHOPSCOURT (GB)        b. 1945
VERTUEUSE (FR)
ch. 1961        VERRIERES (FR)
b. 1953        PALESTINE (GB)        gr. 1947
SERRE CHAUDE (GER)        1944
TENEBREUSE (FR)
ch. 1949        TELEFERIQUE (FR)        ch. 1934
MACREUSE (FR)        1938
作者: coffee    時間: 29-1-2007 02:16 PM

i just don't know how to read.....
作者: Justinian    時間: 29-1-2007 02:44 PM

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原帖由 real 於 29-1-2007 02:13 PM 發表
I had a big win on Armada yesterday. I bet most of you also had a big win, too; although $2.1 or 10/9 was a skinny odds and won't buy you a house at The Peak!

After reading singtao, singpao etc  ...
香港  114   Armada (NZ)  好利威(紐)

其實[好利威]可唔可以跑長D路程未知！
不過你的資料咁 ... 長倒有D怕。:smile_30:
可以的話，可否找點中交的？:smile_38:
作者: whatchee    時間: 29-1-2007 04:02 PM

bloodline information cannot be chinese la


but do some screen print will help organize the information in our mind

I dont think there are many people research bloodline in HK, I can only hear 1 voice in ATV so far
作者: real    時間: 30-1-2007 03:54 PM

Sorry, the cut and paste did not work well. Next time, I will paste an image, rather than text.

Apollo Ng is quite good in this. I like he once said Danehill Dancer was a weak gene and all off-springs have different colour; considering he owns and runs a Danehill Dancer's at HK!!!

Cheung Fook Yuen is HOPELESS, take it from me. I remember he once said Danehill was a cast-off stallion at Europe and did not pay ANY respect to Danehill whatsoever.

Studying of bloodline is only helpful with good horses ( group races, class 1 and class 2 at HK). HK punters should pick up this skill as more and more good horses are running at HK compared with 15 years ago.



What I tried to say yesterday was that Armada was 'DESIGNED' to run 2000m , purely from a bloodline point of view
作者: Forest    時間: 30-1-2007 05:15 PM

:smile_15:
作者: real    時間: 31-1-2007 05:57 PM

Thanks Forest.  The staying genes are from the Dam line. The Sire line also suggets it is a duck.



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