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作者: paulcheung88 時間: 28-12-2011 11:01 AM 標題: Difficulty of Betting recently

Recently, I found more difficult than before when you are placing bets. Last day,  in Race 8, our star Jockey 韋達rode the most favourite horse至尊飛星 and lost.  But his stable horse幸運精彩won. Under any circumstances,  she should come at least first or second if  韋達 has a heart to ride. But, you will discover至尊飛星 having 6  horse-lengths when she competes in last 400 M. If  韋達 did not take that worse position, 至尊飛星 should win or come at least second.

Likewise, in the last race 10, trainer 大摩 played game with us. His most favourite horse 醒目精英
lost the race because of no cover for the most distance of the race whereas his another horse 續領風騷 won the race because she led the race all along and saved a lot of distance. If 醒目精英
took a good position, she should win or come second at least.

As a regular horse-goer, I felt very  angry and bad and had a sense of being cheated by other  inside/known people.  The performance of horses having a pretty good chance was altered by dilberate actions of sthose people. It seems that I was robbed by them.

My advice is to bet as little as possible and think twice or third times when you place your bet on most favourite horses, the success rate of which is pretty low.  Please revert and comment.

作者: seabear 時間: 28-12-2011 11:49 AM

最近係多左熱門跑法令人質疑,
我傾向相信係同線路讓路,甚至開路,

R8 除左至尊飛星大熱孭飛同線外,
仲有貝利高都係同線,同樣跑法有疑點,

我自己有一套睇線路方法,不過要賽前估計暫時未做到準確

作者: whatchee 時間: 28-12-2011 12:17 PM

There is big 過關 for 續領風騷

Some explained that 大摩 need to please every owner, so win by rotation

I treat this more of a psychological game that betting now.

More jocky joined the game of playing the public now

Need observations, there are patterns everywhere in racetrack.

Good luck, Pal

作者: 馬隊長 時間: 28-12-2011 01:49 PM

Two points,
One, did u observe that what was the deficit of 至尊？our team did not place any bet of it yesterday.
Two, is it worth for betting in place when it was hot favorite?

作者: paulcheung88 時間: 28-12-2011 02:16 PM

至尊飛星 must be one of the ready horses (to win in very near future) under two criiteria, first change of a jockey and secondly, the draw gate better than 11. Please note that insiders have lost money on this horse last time. I trust this horse in the present class is super. The reason is that first, she shows ability close to 快利多 (評分83) in race 216. Now this target horse's評分 is only 68. she has15分on hand. Once the jockey is changed to another one in the next race and the draw gate is better, she can easy win any time in class 3 for 1400m (60-80 group). In my opinion, she should have won the last day.

作者: DrHorse 時間: 28-12-2011 03:04 PM

至尊飛星 & 醒目精英, even 同場 no 幸運精彩 or 續領風騷, 賽前已知輸面有 90%.

作者: 馬隊長 時間: 28-12-2011 03:05 PM

O......icic

作者: 山埃博士 時間: 28-12-2011 04:29 PM

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原帖由 whatchee 於 28-12-2011 12:17 PM 發表
There is big 過關 for 續領風騷

Some explained that 大摩 need to please every owner, so win by rotation

I treat this more of a psychological game that betting now.

More jocky joined the game ...

所以........

作者: 山埃博士 時間: 28-12-2011 05:45 PM

win by rotation

暫時35隻可跑一班賽，一季有幾多一班賽？唔排隊點得？

作者: paulcheung88 時間: 28-12-2011 05:52 PM

醒目精英 also one of the best 1800M  horses among all others.
續領風騷 cannot compete with her in the coming 1800M races in Class 1.  If the compete together, I can tell  續領風騷 is in no ways to beat醒目精英 down. She lost because there is deliberate move done by someone. Neverthelss, racing is that it is supposed to be.  So, I  cannot say any more. The trainer is too popular among all trainers and has too many connections.  醒目精英 without proper cover in the last race and ran close (though she lost the race). She has shown anti-trend quality and of course can win any time again under two conditions, one is change of jockey (perhaps the trainer won't do that) and another is the better gate draw. Some might say that her sudden increase by 21 pounds perhaps is one of many reasons why she could not get a place.  But
  續領風騷 won and it always explained what is all about.  Our star idol past trainer Wong Tang Ping is right that he prefers to drop those thoses with fluctuation of horse weight +- 20 pounds in a race.

作者: 山埃博士 時間: 28-12-2011 06:07 PM

醒目精英已2W單騎出擊可留意，若再兩隻三隻同場，必再買未交待馬

甜將讓路傾力之城再贏瀝瀝在目

作者: 山埃博士 時間: 28-12-2011 06:11 PM

步步穩(G108) 9歲都能66倍W交待先！

作者: Hello 時間: 29-12-2011 12:55 AM

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原帖由 paulcheung88 於 28-12-2011 11:01 AM 發表
Recently, I found more difficult than before when you are placing bets. Last day, in Race 8, our star Jockey 韋達rode the most favourite horse至尊飛星 and lost. But his stable horse幸運精彩won. Unde ...

Too subjective...

Maybe you should take these as your lessons,instead of GETTING ANGRY.

"底出" <-- this trick has been manipulated for a long long time already,

BE OBJECTIVE,and you will see.

作者: paulcheung88 時間: 29-12-2011 10:12 AM

正路分析和投注策略 is my golden rule, which is the fun of this game. If we always think of tricks and cheating, we may lose our interest in horse betting. But we know we have to face the reality that some insiders take advantage of our average race-goers and make huge profits. The Club has a primary duty to take care of this kind of move. Trainers of course can do something to let the horse performing poor say by feeding the horse bad and not taking medication, which is already beyond our control. But if the jockey does something tricky and unreasonable in the race affecting the punters, these are not excusable. Their greed harms our interest. Their move must be penalised.

作者: okimg 時間: 29-12-2011 10:18 AM

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原帖由 paulcheung88 於 28-12-2011 02:16 PM 發表
至尊飛星 must be one of the ready horses (to win in very near future) under two criiteria, first change of a jockey and secondly, the draw gate better than 11. Please note that insiders have lost mon ...

計死數, R216當日草地大利跟前及放頭, 至尊飛星亦係受惠馬匹之一, 頭3段重要較同日另一場四班1400慢, 純睇呢場並不出色.
R258快利多可以再羸我覺得只係剛好遇上三班弱組, 當然羸左就係羸左, 但以此伸算至尊飛星同樣值83分就好似唔多正確, R216至尊飛星受讓9磅首先出頭都俾快利多追過, 純以賽積計我唔認為佢有15分起手.

騎師跑法出問題當然可惡, 但我地再鬧似乎都無乜作用, 要羸唯有順勢而行, 幸運精彩能羸賽前有啟示的.

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作者: bryanmwy 時間: 29-12-2011 11:44 AM

Hi, Pal, as long as we realise that there are tricks in the game, what should we do? Place lesser bet or even place nothing? If you opt to keep on placing your bet, the only way is to concentrate on the odds. Should the odd is not good enough, I usually drop the hot favourite. I always stick to the motto: 赌马赌赔率.

作者: 山埃博士 時間: 29-12-2011 07:38 PM

3級賽1400m

出四隻

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作者: 山埃博士 時間: 29-12-2011 07:41 PM

東蔡

作者: phantomhorse 時間: 7-1-2012 01:30 AM

醒目精英 is SUPER COLD before race opens. It won under HKD20 last time. why this time the odds tends to be about HKD30? Very simple, about 1/3 normal bets are missed. It happens many many times in the racing course. Horse racing is not pure sports, it is gambling involved huge amount of money. The odds of 醒目精英 already tells its intention.

Do not know how you count 至尊飛星 ability. Advise to take several performance to evaluate one's ability.

And, the best horse in the race only means the best chance to win. Bet the best chance horse usually leads losing money if the bettor does not have advantage vs. public. To win money, is more likely how to win money from worse horses instead of the best horses.

Dont blame Jockey Club. HK is already a very very fair place. I wish all HRC members win.

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